With respect it sounds as if you are commenting on a genre of music you dont fully understand. its not the sheer volume or loudness that these valve sounds aspire to, its the unique feel that is gained from running valves. go and check the reggae sound system of Jah Shaka, your body is literally moving with the warmth of the bass while you can still talk clearly with the person next to you- quality. fed up with getting my ears damaged by too loud, poor quality in house club rigs. highnessroots.co.uk, roots rules