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 CDJs don't take the skill out of DJing! |
Posted by Peter Newport
on Wednesday 11 June 2003, 04:55PM
CDJs take the skill out of DJing? No way! It's impossible to do the things cd decks can do with decks - looping bars , live re-edits, multi cue points, etc.
So many more tricks you can do nowadays that with any genre make it very skillful.
Anyways who, says the DJ-ing skill just lies with mixing records?
What about vinyl shopping, programming, communicating?
Beatmixing is essential, but not everything.
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| 'nutha CDJ lover! |
by fuelD
on Tuesday 26 April 2005 @11:33PM
CDJs are far from taking the skill away, if anything it may add complexity to the equation of spinning, with extra features like the looping one, you can do a lot more fun stuff,,
also if youre spinning psytrance you have to get cdjs, because psytrance and vinyls are dead. psytrance only comes in cds now.
Also I noticed at a party I went too that the room with cdjs had a much better sound the the room with the decks.
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| I know nothing about audio! |
by Eliot
on Saturday 26 May 2007 @12:45PM
The difference in sound quality between the rooms at the party must have been from the sound system. An mp3 is 128 - 192 kbits/s. A cd in a shop is about 320 kbits/s. A vinyl is literally infinitely better as it is a continual wave. I think the argument between decks and cdjs is a tricky one. on the one hand cdj's you can loop and mess about with the tunes more but i think the reason why many djs (including myself) are still drawn to vinyl is the actualy feel and romantic qualities of vinyl. Thats just my take on it anyway.
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| Serato Rocks... |
by Chris Withers
on Tuesday 12 June 2007 @08:55PM
Um, okay...
An MP3 can often be more than 192kb/sec.
"CD quality" MP3's are 320kb/sec.
A real CD is actually about 1411kb/sec!
Your argument for vinyl is pretty weak. The mastering process will almost certainly be digital, so your "continual wave" will be a bastardised version of whatever the mastering process put out.
You also fail to mention the degradation suffered by vinyl each and every time you play it.
There's a lot more that can go wrong with vinyl to cause sound problems than with a decent CD player.
However, as an interface for mixing music, vinyl won't be beaten.
Thankfully, we now have tools like Serato which really are the best of both worlds...
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| DAT's and vinyls and CDs |
by Eliot Jacob
on Wednesday 13 June 2007 @10:02PM
Fair enough didn't know that. I thought a CD was only 320 and that a vinyl is basically 778 KBps because its recorded from DAT. How could a cd be better quality then what they record vinyl off? surely people would record onto vinyl from CD then? not trying to have a girly row online, just ignorant yet interested in that side of music.
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| CD versus Vinyl - data rates |
by Chris Withers
on Sunday 15 July 2007 @11:17AM
Okay, well, as I said, a CD is actually 1411kb/sec. If you don't believe me, rip a track off a CD to iTunes in WAV format and see what it tells you the bit rate is ;-)
I have no idea where your 778 figure for vinyl comes from. Records can be mastered from any number of sources of different qualities. Think back ot the vinyl pressed in the 60's and 70's , or eve nthe old 78rpm records that were pressed before them. They certainly didn't come from digital sources, so a "kb/sec" figure is pretty meaningless for them.
A CD can be better quality that a vinyl source for any number of reasons. The vinyl mastering process could have started from a shit quality MP3 or damaged analogue tape. Even the mastering process itself can be shoddy leaving a poor quality pressing - god knows I've got a few obscure white labels where that's the case!
As for "recording onto vinyl from CD", I'd be extremely surprised if the most common form of master given to a vinyl plant nowadays wasn't a CDR containing the final mix of the tune ;-)
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| Serato? |
by Koby
on Sunday 24 June 2007 @03:28PM
I love serato!!Bought it 3days ago.Use to buy vinyl but now have to find digital tracks. Not 2 sure where to go to find it.And would i find the same tracks that i would in vynal stores and sites?? Could anyone help?
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| Digital versus Vinyl for sourcing music |
by Chris Withers
on Sunday 15 July 2007 @11:21AM
I've increasingly found it easier to get hold of digital releases of tunes I'm after with stores like <a href="http://www.juno.co.uk">Juno</a> and many artist websites now offering digital releases for purchase, often at lower prices and better quality than physical releases.
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That said, if you can only get it on vinyl, there's nothing stopping you from recording it onto your computer yourself ;-) With a catalog of several thousand pieces of vinyl, that's something I'll need to be doing a lot of myself!
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